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Protecting the integrity of the CCIE lab - Verbal Interviews being tested

August 29th, 2008 · 4 Comments

Brian Dennis over at Internetwork Experts blog caught wind of an interesting email from Cisco -

Dear Candidate:

On August 27, Cisco will introduce a pilot for the CCIE Routing and
Switching lab exam in Beijing, China. The pilot will add a 10-minute
interview that will assess the candidate's ability to apply expert-level
networking skills and knowledge to networking problems that are encountered
on the job. After the lab orientation, a panel of three experts will conduct
a verbal interview with each candidate, asking a series of expert-level
networking questions (questions and answers will be in English). The ability
to correctly answer these questions will affect the exam score. After
completing the interview, the candidate will have the entire 8 hours to
complete the lab portion of the exam.  These scores will then be
calculated and then combined for a total score which will decide a pass
or a fail.

Our goal with this email is to let you know that your day will extend beyond
the normal testing day by approximately one hour.  The additional hour will
be at the end of the day. We hope you find this interview process
enlightening and helpful as we continue to strive for the standard the world
has come to expect from CCIE.

In my opinion this change is both needed and appropriate. In the past couple years, the two main barriers to entry with the CCIE (access to gear, and knowledge) have been lowered with the abundance of training programs as well as dynamips and it’s derivatives for gear emulation. Where in the past you were looking at a minimum of $8,000 dollars for a full lab, now you can run it on your PC at home.

From what I see, this is encouraging engineers to get their CCIE’s earlier in their career. This in itself is not a bad thing. If an engineer has dedicated themselfs to learning all the in’s and out’s of networking technology, then they really have earned the title. The problem comes when people want to take short cuts. They buy a lab of someone in China, or use other methods to get copies of the lab. To them, passing the lab and getting their number is all that is important, not truly becoming an expert in the technology.

While in the short term this may seem like the quick path to a good salary, in the long term everybody loses. Those who have cheated their way to their CCIE (while few and far between) end up devaluing the cert for the rest of us. And at the end of the day, they are just cheating themselves, and will lose their jobs when their true skills are tested.

It looks like Cisco is seeing the same thing that I have just talked about. This pilot program should go a long way into protecting the integrity of the CCIE for years to come.

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4 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Dara // Aug 31, 2008 at 9:34 am

    That’s a good move…..

    Appreciate it on the Cisco front!!

    Although still 10 minutes aren’t enough for it.

    Thanks

  • 2 colinmcnamara // Aug 31, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    I agree that 10-15 minutes is not a long time. However it will uncover if someone is completely trying to game the system.
    The positive side for for the prepared, is this gives you a chance to advertise your preparedness to the proctors, which never hurts.
    –Colin

  • 3 CCIE pilot program being tested in China « ::cisco black belt:: // Sep 8, 2008 at 6:00 pm

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  • 4 Dara // Sep 14, 2008 at 1:07 am

    “The positive side for the prepared, is this gives you a chance to advertise your preparedness to the proctors, which never hurts.”

    Yeah…….True.

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